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Just been thinking about the next playoff expansion.
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 Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2021 02:18 am

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This is assuming the FBS Division retains all the P5, G5, and current at-large teams.

Playoff Expanded to a 16 game playoff.

First Assumption: No conference Championship games.

Second Assumption: All teams play 11 game regular season games.

Third Assumption: All conference teams play 10 conference games and one other P5 team.

Fourth Assumption: Each conference sets rules for top two ranked conference teams.

Fifth Assumption: Each P5 conference two top ranked teams get automatic ticket to playoff.

Sixed Assumption: Three G5 top ranked conference teams get an automatic bid.

Seventh Assumption: Three at-large top teams get a bid to playoffs.

Eight Assumption: Current Committee simply rankes the teams from 1 to 16.

Ninth Assumption is that the playoff will be played in 13 bowl games. Bowl games will be ranked from 1 to 13. Team 1 will play in the #1 ranked bowl game no matter where it is located and same through the rest of the teams from #1 to #8. The #9 through #16 will play wherever they are seeded. Example #1 will play #16 team at the #1 ranked Bowl Game. The committee will have to rank the bowl games so that the highest ranked Bowl games will wind up in the championship game etc.

By eliminating the 12 game to a 11 game regular season using a 16 game schedule adds only one additional game to the two schools who end up in the Playoff Championship Game. This leaves us with a 13 game playoff.

Gives all the FBS teams a chance at the Playoff. The rest of the teams can be in other bowl games is available, I don't really care.

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You've got too much time on your hands again.You should spend more time doing something important like putting down some wood flooring.

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I hate to burst your bubble Walt, but you are going to need 15 bowl games, not 13.

8 1st round + 4 2nd round + 2 semis + 1 final = 15


However I think it may be a hard sell to the 100 or more teams with limited playoff aspirations to give up that 12th game payout for the possibility of hitting the playoff jackpot.

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Way too many assumptions. Hard to argue a reply.

Maybe that's the point?

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tbmguy wrote:
Way too many assumptions. Hard to argue a reply.

Maybe that's the point?


Actually, it is pretty simple. I'm sorry you can't grasp some simple thoughts. :shock::cool:

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personally I think the whole system is broke and just needs dumped and start from scratch, I don't think expanding the current playoffs to 8 - 12 - 15 - 45 teams will change things, the opt outs, transfers, and coming pay for image have changed things to much.

I have a wild proposal, sure it has a lot of holes in it and will never be seen but....

rather than play the bowls at the end of the year let's start the year with the bowl games based on the previous years results, The Rose Bowl would have the 2020 pac and big10 champs playing on 2021 Labor Day weekend for example. you get fully staffed no opt outs because everyone will play the first game where they won't the last.

you get more big game conference vs conference games to judge who is best, then play an 8 team playoff with 5 conference champs and 3 committee picks, instead of bowl games play the first round at the 4 top teams home stadium and let city's bid on the remaining games.

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I'd honestly be fine going back to the Pre BCS system. Where conferences played in designated bowl games and the 2 to 3 dueling polls declared a champ. Who cares if you have 2 different Nat'l Champions, it's college football, not the pros. That was part of the charm. Now we are trying to create the Jr NFL. Money ruins everything!

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While we’re at it:

Top 4 conferences will play for national title. At end of season the coach of the conf champ team will coach a conf team. Coach will select players from all conf teams to fill out roster.

Ok just kidding. I do like expanding but only to 8 teams. Non playoff teams still need bowls to make money.

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captnop wrote:
I'd honestly be fine going back to the Pre BCS system. Where conferences played in designated bowl games and the 2 to 3 dueling polls declared a champ. Who cares if you have 2 different Nat'l Champions, it's college football, not the pros. That was part of the charm. Now we are trying to create the Jr NFL. Money ruins everything!

I agree. I refer to the time where the polls finished after the bowls up to the Bowl Alliance as the golden era of college football. Never understood why it needs to look like the NFL or any other sport for that matter.

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‘Member when people griped and griped and griped for years because college football didn’t have a playoff? I ‘member.
Now that we have one, nobody likes it..

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captnop wrote:
I'd honestly be fine going back to the Pre BCS system. Where conferences played in designated bowl games and the 2 to 3 dueling polls declared a champ. Who cares if you have 2 different Nat'l Champions, it's college football, not the pros. That was part of the charm. Now we are trying to create the Jr NFL. Money ruins everything! I agree it seem that each conference does everything in their power to make sure nothing upsets the applecart. The old bowl system was more fun with more possibilities of who would be crowned champion.

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I like the playoff system, but I would like to see it expanded to eight. I like the five conference champions and three at large. It would have helped a team like us, being justifiably left out of the top 4 but playing really well.

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First wrong assumption: Expansion from 4 teams to 16.
If it expands, will start with 6 or 8.
To avoid major blowouts, I could see 6, with 1 and 2 having byes.

But, I could be wrong, too.:lol:

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gcruse7 wrote:
I hate to burst your bubble Walt, but you are going to need 15 bowl games, not 13.

8 1st round + 4 2nd round + 2 semis + 1 final = 15


However I think it may be a hard sell to the 100 or more teams with limited playoff aspirations to give up that 12th game payout for the possibility of hitting the playoff jackpot.


Another way to explain is, there has to be one game for each team eliminated. 16 teams minus 1 champion = 15 games.

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I would go up to Walt's fourth assumption and begin there. conferences setting rules to find the best two teams.

it might not be possible based on number of teams in each conference but really the big12 has the best setup for finding the top two, everyone plays everyone and the two at the top should be your best two. if you aren't one of the top two you shouldn't even be in consideration for the playoff's.

once you have the top two of each conference and play the conference championship I think that should be considered the first round of the playoff. you survive the first round you claim your conferences title and move on to represent your league in the second round.

that's where it get's harder, for it to work there can't be any independents everyone has to be in a conference, there are 5 main conferences but for it to work you need 3 more teams, it's either 3 at large or pick 3 of the smaller conferences.


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