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What Lincoln Riley said this morning on defensive coordinator, staff hiring in offseason
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"What if this bothers Tosh Lupoi to the point he would want to leave, would we have any interest in Tosh?"

He was under investigation after leaving UW might be a reason to stay away

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Sooner42 wrote:
"What if this bothers Tosh Lupoi to the point he would want to leave, would we have any interest in Tosh?"

He was under investigation after leaving UW might be a reason to stay away

That might be the case, to be honest I don't remember. As I stated in my post about Golding, a lot of the luster about Lupoi seems to have worn off with a lot of teams once they found out that it was Golding calling the plays and not Lupoi.

There are so many different and conflicting stories out there right now it's hard to say what's right and what's guess. At this point, as long as we see positive direction on the defense next year I'll be happy.

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Whoever it is, it has to wait until after the NC game. Riley's comment made that clear. Could be a lot of reasons for this, but Golding being the guy is a good a reason as any.

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anything new on this? FB warriors are running around the field proclaim Grinch is the name to know and well all know tomorrow. Golding more fits the time line not announcing til after NC. If it was Grinch why wait?

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Everybody needs to remember, Riley was a virtual unknown to the fans before his hire and that turned out pretty good. Give Riley time and he will get the guy who is right for OU.


Bow, you likely posted the best thought on this whole DC hire bit. I have a distinct memory of the back and forth we had on Bob's next OC hire. There were quite a few names thrown out including Lincoln Riley. Some of the comments made on Riley very closely resemble the comments here about Alex Grinch.

I agree totally with you in that I trust in Riley. In his two years as OU's head coach he has made great decisions. I think he handled the Mike Stoops situation about as good as possible considering all things.

I just want the OU defense built back to being great as in our past history. Don't give a rip about the name or resume of the guy Riley hires.

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What is strange about that is Lupoi went from 950k a year to 1.1 million in his second year and Golding is getting 650k a year in his first year.

You would think the actual defensive play-caller would be getting paid more even in their first year than the non-defensive play-caller in their 2nd/3rd year.

Based on pure math and history, Lupoi would be the defensive play-caller. so not sure what the truth is.

Big picture wise, I don't care too much, because I think we'll see significant improvement. There are a lot of simple things alone that can be corrected to make a big difference.

Tackling alone would have beaten Texas in the first outing. Tackling alone would have allowed for OU to blow out more foes. And that doesn't even get into things as far as basic blocking techniques and establishing leverage, reading the QBs eyes and body language on a play and coverage techniques by the secondary.

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At this point I would take either Grinch or Golding ... Which ever one wants to be part of the Sooners staff, I'm happy with.

Or if Riley pulls another name out of the hat .. Thats ok too. As long as it's not anyone we have on staff.

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While we all wait around for Hot Rod Lincoln to name his DC, came across this.

https://lastwordoncollegefootball.com/2019/01/02/who-will-be-the-next-defensive-coordinator-at-oklahoma/

Who Will Be The Next Defensive Coordinator At Oklahoma Jason Rhea - January 2, 2019

Now that the 2018 season has come to a close, the burning question for Sooner fans is who will be the next defensive coordinator at Oklahoma. 2018 will go down as one of the worst defensive seasons in history. The Sooners gave up 40+ points on six different occasions. In a season where Mike Stoops was fired in October, it left fans wondering how bad it could get. The interim period is over. Now, we look at some of the possibilities for the new defensive coordinator.

The Favorites

Pete Golding

With this in mind, Golding has long been rumored as the favorite. In not so many words, Lincoln Riley has quietly been targeting Golding for quite some time. First, Golding is the current co-defensive coordinator for Alabama. Now, once you mention Alabama and defensive coordinator in the same sentence that grabs your attention. He has a lot of the same intangibles that Oklahoma is looking for.

In reality, Golding has the looks of the defensive version of Riley. Golding is young at 34 but is known as a defensive prodigy. Much like Riley at East Carolina, Golding transformed the defense at Texas San-Antonio. In 2017, he guided the Roadrunners to the seventh-ranked defense in the country. And, his mark was perhaps no more evident than the fact that his defense allowed 156 fewer yards and nearly 17 fewer points per game from 2015 to 2017. This is Riley’s clear number one target and expect him to do everything he can to pull him out of Tuscaloosa.

Alex Grinch

Grinch is very similar to Golding in many ways. First, like Golding, Grinch is a co-defensive coordinator currently. 2018 was his first year at Ohio State in a shared role with Greg Schiano. While Grinch does not have quite the same recruiting prowess as Golding, he has been every bit as transformative.

Being a defensive coordinator under Mike Leach cannot be an easy task. However, Grinch made the transition seamlessly. In 2015, he took over a unit that ranked 97th nationally in total defense and turned them into the 16th ranked defense in 2017. Equally important, his final defense in Pullman was ranked seventh nationally in defensive passing efficiency. Also, they forced 28 turnovers and only allowed 11 touchdown passes.

Bob Shoop

First, let’s acknowledge how close and how eerily similar it would be to former head coach Bob Stoops. Now, after getting over that initial shock factor we have to realize that he is a considerable favorite. While Shoop is a little older, at 56, he is still much more seasoned as a defensive coordinator at some blue-blood programs.

Shoop has served as the defensive coordinator at Vanderbilt, Penn State, Tennessee, and currently at Mississippi State. Oklahoma is at an interesting crossroads in terms of defensive philosophy. The style of offense that the Sooners play against in the Big 12 is much different than that on the national level. And, Shoop has plenty of experience in leading transformative defenses through the years. In fact, this season, he orchestrated the best defense in the country in terms of points given up per game.

The Best of the Rest

Morgan Scalley

Scalley has been the defensive coordinator in Utah for the past three seasons. He has been coaching the defense for the Utes in some capacity for the last 11 years. In 2016, his defense ranked in the top 12 nationally in sacks and tackles for loss. Then, for this season, Utah ranked 15th in the country in total defense and 16th in scoring defense at 18.5 points per game.

Marcus Freeman

At 32, Freeman would be the youngest of the candidates in play. He has been the defensive coordinator for the University of Cincinnati for the last two seasons. Freeman’s defense was instrumental in the double-digit win season for Cincinnati this season. His defense was ranked seventh in scoring defense and eighth in total defense this season.

Glenn Schumann

Schumann is the lone position coach which is a serious candidate for this job. Even though he has not been a defensive coordinator, he is one of the hottest coaching commodities in the south. He spent eight years coaching under Nick Saban and Kirby Smart at Alabama from 2008 to 2015. During that time, he served as a graduate assistant, director of player personnel and player development. Over the past three seasons, he’s served as the inside linebackers coach for Georgia. He’s been responsible for coaching some outstanding linebackers including last years Butkus Award winner Roquan Smith.

Timeline and Final Thoughts

Riley has stated after the Orange Bowl that he is not in a rush to name a defensive coordinator. Now, while that may be true, I expect someone to be named as early as next week after the National Championship game. At the latest, we would expect someone to be in the role no later than the later period of national signing day on February 6th.

Coaching searches like this are extremely tough to predict. Between money and the proposition of coaching in the Big 12 could be a big deterrent. However, expect Oklahoma to pay up to $2 million for their guy. Golding is clearly the man that Riley wants and will make a big move for him. But, should he not want to make the trip away from Alabama and the SEC there are plenty of other options.

Riley knows that the last two seasons have been somewhat of a waste due to the terrible defense being played in Norman. A defense ranked 108th out of 125 is not acceptable for the program. The Sooners will get the right man for the job, but without having Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray in the fold could it be too little too late? Or, will this be the missing piece to give the Sooners their eighth National Championship? On the bright side, for whomever, it is there will be nowhere to go but up.

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If we don't get either Golding or Grinch a lot of fans will freak out but you know reading the bios on some of these other guys listed here there is a lot to like.

for instance Shoop has been around, been successful, experience at rebuilding defenses, little older than the others which could have some positives and negatives.

another one I read up on Schumann, I don't know with the sorry state of our defense if we can gamble on someone that hasn't been a coordinator, but if we did this one has a lot of good things said about him, sounds like a rising star, time with Saban and Smart, went to high school in Texas, coaching in Georgia so good connections in recruiting... but the experience thing, is it a little bit of a roll of the dice?

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Glenn Schumann ILB Coach/Asst Coach Georgia was named inside linebackers coach at the University of Georgia on Dec. 12, 2015, after serving two years as Director of Player Development and Associate Director of Player Personnel at the University of Alabama.

Schumann was part of a 2017 staff that led the Bulldogs to a record-tying 13 victories, first SEC championship since 2005, first appearance in the College Football Playoff, first appearance (and victory over Oklahoma) in the Rose Bowl CFP semi-final game, and first appearance in the College Football Playoff Championship Game. Georgia’s defense finished second in the SEC and 6th nationally in Scoring Defense (16.4 ppg), 2nd in the SEC and 6th nationally in Total Defense (294.9 ypg), and 2nd in the SEC in Rushing Defense.

Schumann’s star pupil over his first two years was Roquan Smith, the Bulldogs’ leading tackler who capped his junior season by winning the Butkus Award as the nation’s top linebacker, in addition to being named SEC Defensive Player of the Year. Smith was a consensus All-American, finalist for the Nagurski and Bednarik Awards, and finished in the top ten in the Heisman Trophy voting.

Schumann spent eight years with the Crimson Tide, first as an undergraduate analyst (2008-Dec. 2011) and then as a graduate assistant (Dec. 2011-Feb. 2014). In February, 2014, he was named Director of Player Development and Associate Director of Player Personnel serving in those positions until December, 2015. During his tenure at Alabama, the Crimson Tide won three BCS National Championships, one College Football Playoff national title, three Southeastern Conference crowns, six SEC western division titles, and was ranked in the nation's final top ten rankings eight years in a row. In seven of those eight years the Alabama defense finished no lower than fifth nationally in total defense, and in the top ten in scoring defense all eight years. The 2011 defense led the nation in all five major categories including total defense (183.6 ypg), scoring defense (8.2 ppg), rushing defense (72.2 ypg), passing defense (111.5 ypg) and pass efficiency defense (83.69 rating).

In his role with player development at Alabama, Schumann’s responsibilities included a number of off-the-field activities for Alabama’s football student-athletes. He served as an important resource in balancing their demands of academics, athletics and community outreach. He was also involved in the organization of all recruiting efforts.

Schumann comes from a long line of coaches. His father Eric, after playing safety for Alabama in the mid-70s, spent 20 years in college football as a defensive coordinator. Among his coaching stops were UAB, Tulane, SMU, East Tennessee State, Valdosta State, Livingston, New Mexico and Troy. Schumann’s grandfather Jack Haskin was a coach on the first football team at Florida State University and is a member of the FSU Hall of Fame. In addition, Schumann’s mother, Dr. Sherry Schumann, is a former collegiate coach and Athletic Director.

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Schumann is considered a fast-rising star in the coaching realm. Having just experience at Alabama and Georgia, he’s young but very good at his job. While at Alabama, three coaches were in the defensive game-planning meeting: Nick Saban, Kirby Smart and Schumann. That should tell anyone all he/she needs to know.

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I would be okay with Schumann if Golding isn't named. 

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The only way I would freak out is if Diaco was named DC. Fortunately, I don't see rhat happening.

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Schumann was an early favorite of mine .. Just because I liked what I read.. A young guy that can relate .. A good recruiter.

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ClintA.Adams wrote: The only way I would freak out is if Diaco was named DC. Fortunately, I don't see rhat happening.If that were to happen you will hear my scream all the way from California!:D

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OK, I can't take it anymore so I have to say it. Please explain because I don't see the big deal about Golding. Other than the first quarter, I didn't see anything in our game with Alabama that made me excited for him to coach our D.

I don't think we ever punted in the second half but I may be wrong there with that fact. So is that the D we want?

So what goes? With the superior D talent, we still scored 35.

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I see exactly what you are saying Gandalf.............but not all Offenses are as powerful as ours.Bama is one of the few that come close.Im starting to be a Schumann fan Myself but PG will do fine also.

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Gandalf wrote: OK, I can't take it anymore so I have to say it. Please explain because I don't see the big deal about Golding. Other than the first quarter, I didn't see anything in our game with Alabama that made me excited for him to coach our D.

I don't think we ever punted in the second half but I may be wrong there with that fact. So is that the D we want?

So what goes? With the superior D talent, we still scored 35.
If Rambo played the entire game instead of Brown there is a good chance we win that game, IMO.

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Some interesting stuff from tOSU via twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbook37/status/1080909713758334978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1080909713758334978&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhttp://www.12up.com%2Fposts%2F6262468-rumor-oklahoma-trying-to-hire-ohio-state-co-dc-alex-grinch

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bowhuntr wrote: Gandalf wrote: OK, I can't take it anymore so I have to say it. Please explain because I don't see the big deal about Golding. Other than the first quarter, I didn't see anything in our game with Alabama that made me excited for him to coach our D.

I don't think we ever punted in the second half but I may be wrong there with that fact. So is that the D we want?

So what goes? With the superior D talent, we still scored 35.
If Rambo played the entire game instead of Brown there is a good chance we win that game, IMO.
Rambo doesn't change the outcome of that game. Maybe OU scores more easily with Rambo. Once it was 28-0.......with our defense against that Alabama offense.....chances were very slim for an OU win. A 28-0 run by Bama followed by a 20-3 run by OU then just an exchange of TD the rest of the way......I don't think Rambo getting more playing time changes anything there. Defense is what we needed and what we were lacking the other night.

Once the defense is fixed and returns to the level we are historically accustomed to, the offense will continue to roll. No what if's. Alabama and Clemson are just better right now, and OU will eventually beat them. That's how it should be. It's coming.

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Gandalf wrote: OK, I can't take it anymore so I have to say it. Please explain because I don't see the big deal about Golding. Other than the first quarter, I didn't see anything in our game with Alabama that made me excited for him to coach our D.

I don't think we ever punted in the second half but I may be wrong there with that fact. So is that the D we want?

So what goes? With the superior D talent, we still scored 35.As Rick has stated and several other analysts that follow OU closely have said the same. The Alabama defense (whatever they did scheme wise) made Kyler hold the ball longer than usual on those first three drives. They really did a number on the OU offense. Three straight three-and-outs? No one has come close to doing that. Then they built a 28-0 lead and controlled the game from there. Saban himself said they were very concerned with OU's run game and that it was vitally important that they got a big lead early to neutralize that.


From what the analysts have said and Saban, it seems that the game plan was to try to stymie the OU offense early, get a lead and then hang on. It worked.....whatever they did......it worked. Sure Riley and the OU offense finally adjusted (just like Saban predicted) but with our defense, it was too late. I think Golding probably had a huge role in that plan.

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StatesEye wrote:
Gandalf wrote: OK, I can't take it anymore so I have to say it. Please explain because I don't see the big deal about Golding. Other than the first quarter, I didn't see anything in our game with Alabama that made me excited for him to coach our D.

I don't think we ever punted in the second half but I may be wrong there with that fact. So is that the D we want?

So what goes? With the superior D talent, we still scored 35.As Rick has stated and several other analysts that follow OU closely have said the same. The Alabama defense (whatever they did scheme wise) made Kyler hold the ball longer than usual on those first three drives. They really did a number on the OU offense. Three straight three-and-outs? No one has come close to doing that. Then they built a 28-0 lead and controlled the game from there. Saban himself said they were very concerned with OU's run game and that it was vitally important that they got a big lead early to neutralize that.


From what the analysts have said and Saban, it seems that the game plan was to try to stymie the OU offense early, get a lead and then hang on. It worked.....whatever they did......it worked. Sure Riley and the OU offense finally adjusted (just like Saban predicted) but with our defense, it was too late. I think Golding probably had a huge role in that plan.


Also.. it was a great game plan and had very similar results to the 2015 Clemson game. As great as Kyler was/is he was still in his first full season. We saw that both he and Baker had off days at Texas and the Playoffs. Put 2015 Baker in this game and it's probably one of the worst losses in OU history what having a top team.

Secondly had it not been for Kyler ability to pick up yards quickly that come back to respectability would have never happened. Golding was facing an historically great offense and a combination of skills at quarterback that is beyond rare. The job was not to stop it but buy time and pump the breaks so that their offense could get a head start on what was inevitably going to be s shootout.

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Here is the good news out of that game, after having leads over ATM, Clemson and Georgia at half-time in the other bowl game losses in the first half, Oklahoma didn't fall apart in the 2nd half of the game like those games. I give Riley a lot of credit to Riley for that not happening.

He's 35 and will continue to learn and grow in this position. Unlike the last bowl game with Georgia, I didn't have any complaints about squib kicks of offensive play-calling. The only thing I disagreed with is Brown should have been pulled earlier when it was clear he couldn't go. Even though that would have impacted Alabama's quick start, it was clear he wasn't truly ready after a handful of plays.

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I have no real idea which of the candidates would be best but I guess maybe I was leaning a little towards Golding, wasn't anything specific other than if we are going to be in the playoffs facing Alabama, Georgia, Clemson then Golding brings some insight into prepping for these teams, plus the hope that he might have some southern recruiting connections.

But .. last night I read this article--

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/film-study/2018/01/90441/film-study-what-to-expect-from-alex-grinchs-buckeye-defense-in-2018

-- on elevenwarriors from back when Ohio State hired Grinch and made me feel a lot better about what we might be getting if this is the guy, if you got time give it a read. It talks about how he feels like most defensive coordinators believe the goal is to give up as few yards as possible, he believes the goal is to get the ball back for the offense, talks about gang tackling, trying to force turnovers, there is film showing how they tried to fool offenses with last second shifts. He might be a pretty good fit to go against Big12 offenses.


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