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Mike Stoops absolutely has to be fired.
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You can't have gaps like that against Georgia. You just cant.

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I had hoped that playing a more conventional offense would mean Mike would have a good game plan. My hopes are being destroyed. It looks as though no adjustments were made on the defensive side at the half.

Mike Stoops does not deserve to be coaching at a program with the stature of Oklahoma.

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I had hoped that playing a more conventional offense would mean Mike would have a good game plan. My hopes are being destroyed. It looks as though no adjustments were made on the defensive side at the half.

Mike Stoops does not deserve to be coaching at a program with the stature of Oklahoma.

He has no idea what he is doing.

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I tried to convince myself before this game that our defense would be well prepared since we were facing a pretty generic offense.

Sadly that is not the case.

The lack of offensive production in the second half is or course contributing to our woes, but I primarily lie the failure in the game at the feet of our defense and their coordinator.

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How in the world can the offense get so bad so fast. We knew the defense would suck, but I thought the offense might give us a punchers chance. Bad play calling and that squib kick at the end of the half was just plain stupid.

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The offense has done nothing in the second half. Nothing. This team is based on the offense, and if it doesn't produce the team does not win.

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The offense has done nothing in the second half. Nothing. This team is based on the offense, and if it doesn't produce the team does not win.
Aren't we all sick of the offense needing to score 40 to beat good teams? Wouldn't it be nice if the defense for its part sometimes?

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They are just physically whippping Us on both sides of the ball. Being overmatched.

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How in the world can the offense get so bad so fast. We knew the defense would suck, but I thought the offense might give us a punchers chance. Bad play calling and that squib kick at the end of the half was just plain stupid.

Baker has the flu and it catches up to you. His back is also hurt from the cheapshot.

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The offense has done nothing in the second half. Nothing. This team is based on the offense, and if it doesn't produce the team does not win.
Aren't we all sick of the offense needing to score 40 to beat good teams? Wouldn't it be nice if the defense for its part sometimes?


From your fingers to God's ears.....

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Best college QB in history no matter what. Flu and sore back due to cheapshot and still kicked ass on that possession.

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They are just physically whippping Us on both sides of the ball. Being overmatched.

That's happening because of the mental aspect. If they were superior physically, that would have been the case in the first half also.

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They are just physically whippping Us on both sides of the ball. Being overmatched.

That's happening because of the mental aspect. If they were superior physically, that would have been the case in the first half also.

A lot of whipping is mental and emotion. They were running for a lot per attempt in the first half, physically whipping us then too. We didn’t sustain our’s and they increased their’s

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lexred wrote: How in the world can the offense get so bad so fast. We knew the defense would suck, but I thought the offense might give us a punchers chance. Bad play calling and that squib kick at the end of the half was just plain stupid.Lincoln just choked ... his lack of experience became very evident.

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fired? he should resign, follow Bob... or just leave him in California.

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48 points and over 500 yards of offense and still walking out of the stadium with a loss. Just like Josh Heupel got sent packing, your turn, Mike. OU will never win another title with Mike Stoops at DC. That is a fact.

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Punt 3&out
Punt 3&out
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Interception
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Scoring 48 points should win the game. With an even halfway competent defensive coordinator we win that game easily.

Scoring that many points against an SEC should always, ALWAYS mean you win the game in a blowout!

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Punt 3&out
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48 points. 500 yards. But let's go ahead and continue the narrative that the offense is the problem. Squandered a once in a lifetime quarterback because the defense sucks again.

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 02:36 am by KS Sooner

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You can't have gaps like that against Georgia. You just cant.

I agree you cannot have the gaps you reference but that was on Beal and Murray who had a month to get their fits down pat but seldom made their fits.

I too think that it is time for Mike to go but tonight the difference was much more execution and talent than it was scheme. We just lost the line of scrimmage too much.

Let us not forget that our offense scored only 17 in the second half. Also if we don't squander the kickoff before half time those 3 points on their FG they don't get could have won the game in regulation.

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Punt 3&out
Punt 3&out
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48 points. 500 yards. But let's go ahead and continue the narrative that the offense is the problem. Squandered a once in a lifetime quarterback because the defense sucks again.


This is a team sport. In the way this team is built, the offense must produce. The offense dramatically failed to produce in the second half, and in fact gift-wrapped a TD for the other team. If you want football where the offense can go three & out on half of it's possessions, go find a Big Ten team to root for.

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The offense is world class. Can't we just go to the SEC and find a defensive coordinator? Pretty sure that's how we got Bob Stoops. It's worth a freaking shot at the very least.

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Punt 3&out
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48 points. 500 yards. But let's go ahead and continue the narrative that the offense is the problem. Squandered a once in a lifetime quarterback because the defense sucks again.


This is a team sport. In the way this team is built, the offense must produce. The offense dramatically failed to produce in the second half, and in fact gift-wrapped a TD for the other team. If you want football where the offense can go three & out on half of it's possessions, go find a Big Ten team to root for.


Yeah, half the team produced 500 yards of offense and 6 touchdowns. The other half gave up 500 yards and 54 points. Clearly, Lincoln Riley's offense is the problem. Let's fire him. Promote Mike to head coach. He seems to be doing a dynamite job in your opinion.

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The offense has done nothing in the second half. Nothing. This team is based on the offense, and if it doesn't produce the team does not win.
Aren't we all sick of the offense needing to score 40 to beat good teams? Wouldn't it be nice if the defense for its part sometimes?


Don't forget that the great Georgia defense gave up 40+ too. It was defensive talent that put pressure on Baker, had tight coverage on our receivers and held our rushing offense to below its y/c average.

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 02:48 am by SoonerSpock

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Mike Stoops made Baylors offense look good. He is the problem.

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Cemetery Guy wrote:
Punt 3&out
Punt 3&out
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Punt 3&out
TD
Punt 3&out
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48 points. 500 yards. But let's go ahead and continue the narrative that the offense is the problem. Squandered a once in a lifetime quarterback because the defense sucks again.


This is a team sport. In the way this team is built, the offense must produce. The offense dramatically failed to produce in the second half, and in fact gift-wrapped a TD for the other team. If you want football where the offense can go three & out on half of it's possessions, go find a Big Ten team to root for.


Am I wrong or is it mikes job to coach? People keep giving him a pass because players aren't executing. Who's job is it to coach them?

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Uh...defense is suppose to get stops and force turnovers. Plural, not singular.

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Bottom line, defense has been a problem for a number of years and is the achilles heel of OU every. single. year. Stop apologizing for Mike Stoops. He should be let go (should have been years ago). It's getting sad and old.

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Y'all just want a scapegoat.

If the offense just avoids three & outs in the second half then it's a win. If the offense doesn't hand UGA a TD, it's a win. If the offense scores more than once in the second half, it's a win.

It's all fine and good to say the defense was deficient. It's wrong to say that the offense did it's job, because it did not in the second half. This is the same thing that happened against Iowa State, the "best offense in college football" failed to produce.


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