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 Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2017 03:57 pm

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Never underestimate the return of a seasoned OL.  Last year Samjae and Joe had to make their mark behind a "still in progress" OL.  Next year the "replacement" RBs
will be running  behind a proven OL.  That in itself will make up some of the lost production of the 2 new NFL RB lost this year.

I was going to make this point, but you beat me to it. I'm not as fast or as quick as I was back in my playing days.

(And of course, by "playing days," I mean back when I used to play "Tag" and "Red Rover" and stuff.)

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AllSooner wrote: Never underestimate the return of a seasoned OL.  Last year Samjae and Joe had to make their mark behind a "still in progress" OL.  Next year the "replacement" RBs
will be running  behind a proven OL.  That in itself will make up some of the lost production of the 2 new NFL RB lost this year.
True.  It is easier to throw from an upright position.---even for Baker.  I've seen good line make average running backs look good.

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sybil wrote:
the brainiacs are speculating that :ou: might put kyler murray in the backfield with baker....


That certainly opens up a lot of interesting options in the backfield. And he has running back dimensions although a little more weight would be nice. Not a lot though. On top of being a QB, he is a legitimate running back in terms of capability.

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We pretty much crushed them because we had the offensive tools to outscore them.  Will that be true?  We will have pieces, but will they have the  explosiveness of the pieces we had this year?


That's my concern - for example - Mixon's TD that put the dagger in the aggies - do any of the new backs have that kind of speed and moves? Our 3rd and 22 situation in the Sugar Bowl where Mixon comes out the backfield and catches a pass for the first down. Who else can do that kind of stuff? Take away plays that that and do we go on a 10-game winning streak this year?

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ClintA.Adams wrote: sybil wrote:
the brainiacs are speculating that :ou: might put kyler murray in the backfield with baker....


That certainly opens up a lot of interesting options in the backfield. And he has running back dimensions although a little more weight would be nice. Not a lot though. On top of being a QB, he is a legitimate running back in terms of capability.
AAnyone remember Derrick Shepard?

Greatest highschool run/throw quarterback OU ever recruited.  What position did he play?

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I think losing both of our backs will really hurt our offense next year. Mixon was a difference maker - probably one of the main reasons we won the Sugar Bowl. I like our backs returning, but they just aren't the difference makers like the two guys this year.

I agree that he and Perine we huge parts of us helping OU win a few games. That being said if the Defense can get there act together we wont need another AD, Murray or Mixon. They would be icing on the cake, especially with Baker coming back. We have yet to really see what all the hype around Anderson was about and hopefully this will give him and a few other backs an opportunity to do so.

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AllSooner wrote: Never underestimate the return of a seasoned OL.  Last year Samjae and Joe had to make their mark behind a "still in progress" OL.  Next year the "replacement" RBs
will be running  behind a proven OL.  That in itself will make up some of the lost production of the 2 new NFL RB lost this year.
True.  It is easier to throw from an upright position.---even for Baker.  I've seen good line make average running backs look good.


Chris Brown in 08, my man from Jenks in 2004. Imagine if AD would have played behind those lines both years or Demarco could have stayed healthy in 08 and have gotten the lions share of touches. This was the only time that I thought that the RB by committee was a good idea because both backs were equally strong..well there was the stint right before Samaje and Joe came in but those backs were also equal in talent but not in the caliber of what we have... I mean had.

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ClintA.Adams wrote: sybil wrote:
the brainiacs are speculating that :ou: might put kyler murray in the backfield with baker....


That certainly opens up a lot of interesting options in the backfield. And he has running back dimensions although a little more weight would be nice. Not a lot though. On top of being a QB, he is a legitimate running back in terms of capability.

I saw that as well.  Let's play the "what if" game with Murray. 

What if Murray has the hands to catch passes? 

What if Riley works him in at the slot and in the backfield as an RB? 

What if Riley works Murray in the "Wildcat"?

If OU can turn Murray into a WR/RB they have another Mixon with the ability to throw the ball.   Think of all the possibilities this would give him and think of the potential nightmare this would create for the opposing DCs.

One of the reason college football is so much fun is the fact that every year you lose your Seniors [and some Juniors] to graduation or the NFL and you get to create a whole new team. 

Riley has proven he has a great imagination and has the ability to create good match-ups.  I think we can trust that Riley will be able to maximize the talent he will have next year.




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Don't forget Dimitri Flowers.

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Don't forget Dimitri Flowers.


He did a nice job during Samaje's injury and Mixon's suspension and he's made huge key receiving plays for the Sooners the past few years, but he's not really a game-breaker out of the backfield in terms of running ability to be an every game every down back for the Sooners. He's best in his "element of surprise" role as witnessed on a couple of incredible plays he made against Baylor last season (the 2015 season).

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Up until today I thought we may have a very good shot at beating OSU in Columbus. Now with this news, I seriously doubt it. No matter the off field problems, I truly believe he is actually one of the only true 5 star guys we've seen from a pure talent standpoint on offense since Bob got to Norman. Outside of AD, I can't really think of another guy that had the complete package. This will be a story of what could have been for OU next year, i believe. Too bad.

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Up until today I thought we may have a very good shot at beating OSU in Columbus. Now with this news, I seriously doubt it. No matter the off field problems, I truly believe he is actually one of the only true 5 star guys we've seen from a pure talent standpoint on offense since Bob got to Norman. Outside of AD, I can't really think of another guy that had the complete package. This will be a story of what could have been for OU next year, i believe. Too bad.

Well shoot! I guess we might as well stay home.

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Don't forget Dimitri Flowers. I see Flowers starting the season as the RB.

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OU has a lot of talent returning.

OU didn't give up when Billy Vessels left. They went on to win a few national Championships right after that. When Steve Owens left, OU went on to win a couple more. When DuPree left, then a couple of years later Aikman broke his leg against Miami, OU had to play a Freshman QB.

I'm not trying to lecture OU fans on this board about OU football history; This is the most knowledgeable OU board. I'm just certain that there is no way to determine how good this team will be next year, and that there are plenty of good reasons to be optimistic.

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http://247sports.com/Player/Trey-Sermon-76769

I say this kid will remind us of Perine;)

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Frankly, I was surprised to learn that Joe was leaving.

With that said, there is some talent to work with. If Anderson can gain back his "confidence" after the injury he will do well. I agree with Sybarite that he's doesn't have the break away speed.

Don't sell Abdul Adams short. He didn't look great at first, but remember he was down the list for practice reps and the early games he did make an appearance, he looked really tentative. The last game he was in, and I can't remember the game, but I noticed his improvement. He was much more decisive and obviously his confidence had gone up and it showed. With another year, he'll be more as advertised.

Finally, Sermon looks really good on film. And my sources say that once Brooks gets here and gets aclimated, look out. He has Mixon's speed and fluidity and the power of Perine. I'm being told he just might take over the backfield by texass*.

And as far as the Brainiacs supposition about Murray, I've been told Riley is already trying to figure out how to use his talent. Baker's the QB, but Riley knows he has to find a way to utilize Murray. I can just imagine the sleepless nights that opposing D Coords are going to have trying to scheme for him being anywhere on the field.

As Sybarite stated above, Riley knows how to utilize talent. I don't expect anyting different next year. Having and experienced O Line will also help and the D should be improved a lot from last year.

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I have always believed that the 50's concept of the half-back pass was something of a lost art.

In OU's offense, Murray passing out of the slot, wildcat, or even RB, could become a third option, sort of like a new, but old-school triple option.

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Rick 46, can you ask your source about Jon Micheal-Terry. Do they think he starts next year?

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Rick 46, can you ask your source about Jon Micheal-Terry. Do they think he starts next year?

I think he'll be the first option at MLB and lets see how he fares in the spring.

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I would have loved it had Joe Mixon decided to stay but really looking forward to seeing what else we have. Kind of like a kid waiting for Christmas.

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Lots of "draft experts" are saying he will go undrafted but I think they are dreaming. He's too much of a talent for some team to not take a chance on him.

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Kind of like the media predicting Hillary would win, they are just projecting their politics into the story.... the reality is he would be the best player on the field in many of the NFL games ...... he goes first round just as predicted......in 2015 the CAC reviewed 159 players and predicted 6 would go first round and historically they are 91% accurate..... so when the CAC says he goes first round he goes first round

NFL need to win is huuuuuge....

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...I agree! The 49ers, the Jets, the Browns, the Bears aren't going to take a pass on this kind of talent. He won't be available by the end of the 2nd round.

OU, OU, OU!!!

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I will be stunned if he lasts twenty picks.


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