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 Posted: Sun Sep 25th, 2016 06:21 pm

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Since a lot people on this board want to burn Bob in Effigy  (small town outside of Purcell), I thought we should put together a list of head coaching favorites to find out where we stand.

So which son of a Schnellenberger is your flavor of the week?

I understand Les Miles will be available after the season.  A lot of people have nasty comments about Les from  his "Let'em Rip" days that they can pull out and use the 1st time his team has a TD taken off the board because time had expired.

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Son of Schnellenberger? I wasn't aware that Donnie Duncan was still the AD.

Bob Stoops in his current form has made Oklahoma not relevant. Oklahoma is 1 and 2 and is out of the playoff race in mid September.

I think some people are bigger Bob Stoops fans than Oklahoma fans.

Tom Herman is on the short list and not because he beat Oklahoma but because of his overall resume.

At 5 million a year, Oklahoma can get any coach out there except Saban and Buyer.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 25th, 2016 08:15 pm

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Justin Fuente

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Sadly I now find myself in favor of him being replaced. I honestly think Bob was the best Coach Oklahoma has ever had. What he did in this day and age of College football is unreal but I do believe he has reached a point in his life he is no longer willing to do what needs to be done.
I don't blame him for that but it's time to move on to someone who is looking to make their mark and make whatever sacrifices are required to have a top flight program.
I have no idea who that person is but they are out there.

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Sadly he will be here as long as Borden is still here

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He is not perfect.

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tcnguyen wrote:
Sadly he will be here as long as Borden is still here

Perfect.

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Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

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ClintA.Adams wrote: Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

You guys can't be serious with Fuente!  What has he done that makes you think he is a savior of OU football?

He is a good kid and a good coach, but he sure doesn't have the kind of resume that jumps off of the paper at you.

The only one I see out there is Tom Hermen.

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Sadly I now find myself in favor of him being replaced. I honestly think Bob was the best Coach Oklahoma has ever had. What he did in this day and age of College football is unreal but I do believe he has reached a point in his life he is no longer willing to do what needs to be done.
I don't blame him for that but it's time to move on to someone who is looking to make their mark and make whatever sacrifices are required to have a top flight program.
I have no idea who that person is but they are out there.


I don't agree completely, but this is a very good post.

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LSU just fired Les so he is available now!

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LSU just fired Les so he is available now!

For real?????

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I hope he gets hired somewhere else. I like Les:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKA7r2zGIxI

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Walt wrote:
ClintA.Adams wrote: Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

You guys can't be serious with Fuente!  What has he done that makes you think he is a savior of OU football?


Savior? I thought we were looking for a coach.

I'm not saying "don't look at Herman." But Fuente did a bang up job at Memphis and seems to be doing pretty well in the 20 minutes or so he's been at Va. Tech. Prior to getting the job at Memphis he was the OC at TCU where they went undefeated in 2011 and he developed Andy Dalton.

I liked the guy when he was here and got jerked around by the coaching staff. Nothing's changed on that part, he seems like he can win, he knows how to overcome adversity, he's young, and I get the feeling that he would continue what Stoops has done as far as running a clean program, something I'm less certain Herman would do.

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ClintA.Adams wrote: Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

You guys can't be serious with Fuente!  What has he done that makes you think he is a savior of OU football?

He is a good kid and a good coach, but he sure doesn't have the kind of resume that jumps off of the paper at you.

The only one I see out there is Tom Hermen.


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Cemetery Guy wrote: Walt wrote:
ClintA.Adams wrote: Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

You guys can't be serious with Fuente!  What has he done that makes you think he is a savior of OU football?


Savior? I thought we were looking for a coach.

I'm not saying "don't look at Herman." But Fuente did a bang up job at Memphis and seems to be doing pretty well in the 20 minutes or so he's been at Va. Tech. Prior to getting the job at Memphis he was the OC at TCU where they went undefeated in 2011 and he developed Andy Dalton.

I liked the guy when he was here and got jerked around by the coaching staff. Nothing's changed on that part, he seems like he can win, he knows how to overcome adversity, he's young, and I get the feeling that he would continue what Stoops has done as far as running a clean program, something I'm less certain Herman would do.

I like him.  But, honestly I can't see what the attraction would be for him to be head coach at OU.  Doing a bang up job at Memphis isn't a great achievement.  Not saying he might not turn out to be a great hire at OU.  Just saying he is a gamble just as hiring anyone with his type resume would be a gamble.

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We just need a new DC and with him a new defensive coaching staff......

I will give LR one more game to pull it together.....

If we lose to Texas fire them all that day......

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Walt wrote:
ClintA.Adams wrote: Cemetery Guy wrote:
Justin Fuente

I like that one as well.

You guys can't be serious with Fuente!  What has he done that makes you think he is a savior of OU football?

He is a good kid and a good coach, but he sure doesn't have the kind of resume that jumps off of the paper at you.

The only one I see out there is Tom Hermen.



There's a lot of coaches I would take a chance on over Bob Stoops. He's made Oklahoma not relevant and has embarrassed the Oklahoma name one too many times on the national stage. Looking past the financial aspects, he's hurting Oklahoma more now than he is helping it when it comes to a winning reputation standpoint.

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Walt wrote:
Doing a bang up job at Memphis isn't a great achievement. 


Seriously?

Toledo went 6-5 in 1989 and hired Nick Saban who went 9-2 in 1990 then left to be an NFL assistant. The next year under Gary Pinkel Toledo's record was 5-5-1

Bowling Green went 2-9 in 2000. They hired Urban Meyer, who went 8-3 and then 9-3. Utah was 5-6 in 2002. The next two years under Meyer they went 22-2.

Steve Spurrier was successful at Duke before going to Florida and Bobby Bowden showed he could coach at Howard and at West Virginia before building Florida State into what it is today.

Being able to win at a place like Memphis is, if anything, more impressive. Houston has some tradition and history, and better recruiting areas. It could also be the case that Herman, who is only in his second season at Houston, is benefitting from what was left to him by his predecessor. Fuente spent four years at Memphis, turning it from nothing into something and apparently leaving something of value as they are 3-0 right now.

If you think Herman is the guy you want, fine. But Fuente has the better resume.

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Norte Dame just fired their defensive coordinator. Bob needs to follow suit or take over the defense and make Mike the bus driver.

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I see the same thing in Fuentes as I did when I saw Urban Meyer at Utah, although  not quite as certain.  Great coaches have offenses and defenses that look rehearsed.  They actually seem to practice the plays.   I see it in Mangino and wonder what he would have done at OU with good talent.  I saw it in Leach. 

Given the facilities and tradition of OU, I think that Fuentes would be better.  I was absolutely certain of Meyer.  Leach did a much better job at Tech and gave OU and Texas fits without being able to recruit that kind of talent to Lubbock.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to coax Freeze from Mississippi, and he has done more with less.

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I'll take the job for a million per year, 5 year guaranteed contract. We will have more money to spend on assistants that way and can hire the very best. That way I can let them coach during the games while I eat hot dogs, smoke and talk to the cheerleaders.

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I'll take the job for a million per year, 5 year guaranteed contract. We will have more money to spend on assistants that way and can hire the very best. That way I can let them coach during the games while I eat hot dogs, smoke and talk to the cheerleaders.

Is that you Barry?

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Bob Stoops already did his run of coordinator changes and it didn't work out.

Brent Venables was doing a poor job at Oklahoma, but then got better at Clemson after getting away from Bob Stoops.

Oklahoma had the talented offensive lines and defensive lines in 2003 and 2004 and had the talented offensive lines in 2007 and 2008, but still failed to get the job done.

There is nothing Bob Stoops can do to turn things around at this point, he's already exhausted everything. He's had a good run at Oklahoma, but it's time to move on.

I wouldn't be shocked in the least if he went somewhere else and did a great job. Sometimes a person just needs a fresh start and it would be good both for Bob Stoops and Oklahoma. Of course, at this point in life, I am sure he would just retire and pursue his secondary lifelong dream of coaching youth basketball somewhere.

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There are only 3 coaches on my list Bilechek, Meyers, and Satan. otherwise its a crap shoot I'd rather not throw. I'm pretty sure I spelled 2 of their names wrong.

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There are only 3 coaches on my list Bilechek, Meyers, and Satan. otherwise its a crap shoot I'd rather not throw. I'm pretty sure I spelled 2 of their names wrong.

Three for three.

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There are only 3 coaches on my list Bilechek, Meyers, and Satan. otherwise its a crap shoot I'd rather not throw. I'm pretty sure I spelled 2 of their names wrong. I guess I'm under informed who are these guys?

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2 Proven winners who know how to motivate and in Swinney's case, recruit at a super high level: Gary Patterson and Dabo Swinney. Trouble is, Swinney will probably replace Saban one day. Also, Clemson is such a beautiful place to live versus Norman, so not sure there is an upside right now for Dabo. Patterson might be a different story. Great football mind. Already planted in the SW, so not a big lifestyle change.
If Fuente can make VT relevant again, maybe he IS the right fit.

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palmettosooner wrote: If Fuente can make VT relevant again, maybe he IS the right fit.
A coach that has won in a place where it's not easy has to have something.  David Cutcliffe would be a top candidate for me if he wasn't 147 years old.  If their 3-1 start is an indicator of the rest of the season Jeff Monken at Army might be an up-and-comer.  Jeff Brohm at Western Kentucky is another guy that interests me.

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Sadly I now find myself in favor of him being replaced. I honestly think Bob was the best Coach Oklahoma has ever had. What he did in this day and age of College football is unreal but I do believe he has reached a point in his life he is no longer willing to do what needs to be done.
I don't blame him for that but it's time to move on to someone who is looking to make their mark and make whatever sacrifices are required to have a top flight program.
I have no idea who that person is but they are out there.


I hate to disagree but there are more than a few coaches who has done or equaled him this past decade. The Big 12 now is very similar to the conference Boise State was in at the time of their run. What Saban and perhaps Meyer are doing are unreal ..what Pete Carrol would have done had he stayed at SC would be unreal. Bob has been a very good coach but imo its the Big games that make great coaches. But he's right up there with Jo Pa and Loyd Carr. Then you have Bud, Switzer, OZ, Hayes and Meyer with the top of Saban and the Bear up for grabs.

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