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 Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2009 01:06 am

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Here's the deal. I'm trying to run rg-6 to 4 rooms. My idea is to run straight cable as close as i can get to "my" tv;). Split right before i get there and go back to "her" tv. Split right before i get there and then split again and go to the 2 kids rooms. All this is done underneath the floor.

The primary tv is going to be 80' away. The rest of the tv's will be coming back the other way, so the last 2 tv's will be run with almost 160' of cable thru 3 two way splitters.

Am I way off or am I dialed in to the most efficient way to do this?

Jim carey cable repair dudes please chime in.    Drilling will commence this weekend. No pressure. :D  The situation at this point is fluid. :cool:






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 Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2009 01:16 am

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Structural and electronic engineer input is welcome also.

I "think" my primary tv will be a Sony 46" LED with local dimming or samsung 8500 series so you can imagine my apprehension.

I realize this isn't bbq or queso sauce related, but I feel its relevant...

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 Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2009 01:36 am

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After the first split to the primary, I guess i could do a 3-way splitter for the last 3 tv's.

I'd like to have the best picture supplied to the main 2 tv's obviously. I'm just concerned about picture quality. "Her" tv will most likely be a panasonic plasma.

Maybe  a 2 way split and then 3 way split is the way to go...:big confused:

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 Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2009 04:31 am

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I gotta tell ya.

Reponses tonite... weak.


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 Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2009 02:12 pm

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I know very little about this, but I can tell you how my house was wired for TV when it was built about 10 years ago.

A 6 way splitter was placed at the source and a seperate cable was run to each TV.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 12th, 2009 12:47 pm

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en4cer wrote: Structural and electronic engineer input is welcome also.

I "think" my primary tv will be a Sony 46" LED with local dimming or samsung 8500 series so you can imagine my apprehension.

I realize this isn't bbq or queso sauce related, but I feel its relevant...
Hey there, CHALK BOARD. You cannot possibly go wrong with the Sony choice, but you can do every bit equally as good w/o spending Sony kind of coin.

I have done **alot** of reviewing as I'm sure you have, and Samsung would be one of my top choices; personally I would stay away from RCA, Zenith, Haier, Sylvania, and Sanyo.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 13th, 2009 07:30 am

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Would 6 years at Dish Network (Installations, Quality Control and Management) count, as an expert opinion?

You're making it much more difficult than it needs to be. Plus, you're just introducing more equipment that can possibly go bad into the equation.

I assume, since you said this will all be done under the house, you're running either thru a basement, or a crawl space.

Three (recommended) ways to do this.

1) From the entry point (primary cable) into the house, use a 4 way splitter at that point, then run the 4 lines to each room.

2) Run the primary cable to a mid-point. Hook up 4-way splitter there. This way, it makes your runs off the splitter, shorter runs, leading to less signal loss to all rooms.

3) Or if you wanted... run the single line, as close to your TV as possible, then use the 4-way.

Or... if you think I'm crazy and don't know what I'm talking about... run the primary as close to your TV as possible, then install a 2-way... 1 side to your TV, then a 3-way splitter off the other line to the other 3 bedrooms. However, keep in mind... every time you split the signal, you're going to experience signal degradation. You can start seeing it, after the 2nd splitter, off a single line.

That's why, I would just split it the 1 time, with a 4-way. Honestly... if you buy a quality splitter, you're not going to notice it on any of the TVs (even your's).

#2 or #3 are the options I would choose.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 20th, 2009 12:05 am

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How did that wiring job go? Did it work?

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 Posted: Mon Dec 21st, 2009 03:15 pm

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I'm curious to see how it went also.  I'm not a TV/cable guy, but I am voice/data networking guy.  I started as a "cable jockey".  I wired up my house with RG6 for TV and Cat6 for voice/data.  SoCal is right.  You need to remember that each time you split the signal, you will get some degradation.  SoCal also made the perfect suggestions.  I would trust what he says on this matter more than my opinion, because it is TV.  But the same principles apply in the physical setup.  The less you have to split and/or introduce equipment, the better.  Everything in my house is a "home run" to one location.  All the splitting/switching is done there. 

How did you set it up, and how's it working?

SoCal, are you still at Dish?  We have Dish Network, and right now, the only complaint is that the negotiations with FSSW stalled regarding carrying the extra Stars hockey games.  It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't pay for Center Ice and still cannot see all the games our local team plays.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 11:15 am

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I am no longer with Dish Network. I left Dish in '06.

I had an opportunity to move to DirecTV. However, it would have required relocating and the timing was all wrong.

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 Posted: Tue Dec 29th, 2009 12:48 am

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SoCalBigRed wrote: 

You're making it much more difficult than it needs to be. Plus, you're just introducing more equipment that can possibly go bad into the equation.

 


Point well taken..:D


To summarize... Got lucky and had a good installer show up. He lined me out on a  HD install. Good kid.

I'm waaaay past that now. :P

I ended up with a 58" panny plasma in the den (the rest is just cosmetics really) and am really agonizing over sound now. 

I'm gonna take lackjaws advice and go Sony here.  Since its not a huge room, a soundbar with woofer seems to be in order. Sony CT500. Done deal.

The whole system should be in the 30th.

JUST IN TIME. :beer:

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 Posted: Tue Dec 29th, 2009 12:59 am

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Sooner Lockjaw wrote: en4cer wrote: Structural and electronic engineer input is welcome also.

I "think" my primary tv will be a Sony 46" LED with local dimming or samsung 8500 series so you can imagine my apprehension.

I realize this isn't bbq or queso sauce related, but I feel its relevant...
Hey there, CHALK BOARD. You cannot possibly go wrong with the Sony choice, but you can do every bit equally as good w/o spending Sony kind of coin.

I have done **alot** of reviewing as I'm sure you have, and Samsung would be one of my top choices; personally I would stay away from RCA, Zenith, Haier, Sylvania, and Sanyo.


Dude, those are good but ya gotta shake this tube fixation you have... ;)

On a side note, what day you free this week? I'm talking heavy lifting and probably a u-haul rent involved.

Lovely weather.

Beer included.

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FilippOU wrote: I'm curious to see how it went also.  I'm not a TV/cable guy, but I am voice/data networking guy.  I started as a "cable jockey".  I wired up my house with RG6 for TV and Cat6 for voice/data.  SoCal is right.  You need to remember that each time you split the signal, you will get some degradation. 


I'll let ya know.

I'm going to run component video from the dishdvr to tv and HDMI from the blu ray player. That appears to be consensus.

The Sony Soundbar will be a simple tie in i'm hoping. I'm willing to settle into this and then fine tune from there.

A 7.1 system would be great, but i'll wait for the next "great" upgrade in technology before i move on it.

old school

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en4cer wrote: Sooner Lockjaw wrote: en4cer wrote: Structural and electronic engineer input is welcome also.

I "think" my primary tv will be a Sony 46" LED with local dimming or samsung 8500 series so you can imagine my apprehension.

I realize this isn't bbq or queso sauce related, but I feel its relevant...
Hey there, CHALK BOARD. You cannot possibly go wrong with the Sony choice, but you can do every bit equally as good w/o spending Sony kind of coin.

I have done **alot** of reviewing as I'm sure you have, and Samsung would be one of my top choices; personally I would stay away from RCA, Zenith, Haier, Sylvania, and Sanyo.


Dude, those are good but ya gotta shake this tube fixation you have... ;)

On a side note, what day you free this week? I'm talking heavy lifting and probably a u-haul rent involved.

Lovely weather.

Beer included.
Saturday works! Confirm..............:beer::beer::beer:

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en4cer wrote: FilippOU wrote: I'm curious to see how it went also.  I'm not a TV/cable guy, but I am voice/data networking guy.  I started as a "cable jockey".  I wired up my house with RG6 for TV and Cat6 for voice/data.  SoCal is right.  You need to remember that each time you split the signal, you will get some degradation. 


 


They split each signal twice for a 4 tv setup. I guess there's another output off the dish if I wanted to add another receiver and tv. So far i've just hooked up the new panny with a simple hdmi cable. No soundbar. (i picked up the tv the 31st and was in a hurry.) By the time i picked up a tv stand and cables and some camera the wife wanted, i was ready to load and go.

I gotta say, it sounds pretty good just on its own. I didn't do component video cables because the panny's wont accept 1080 thru component video even though dish receivers will output it. Sooo..hdmi was the way to go.

So far so good. The picture quality is fantastic. Very happy. (y)


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